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Question for my brothers
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unix-freak
2004-04-18 13:18:18 UTC
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Greetings in the name of Christ. I'm curious about some other views
besides my own on an issue that I'm having with my son. I'll try to
make it short.

I gave my life to Christ in `88 when I quit drinking. I was an
alcoholic and was delivered from it. It is the basis of my testimony.
I have a 21 year old son who still lives at home. He brings beer home
and keeps it pretty much to himself in his room (a downstairs out of
the way basement room). He doesn't really abuse it, but occasionally
does.

I've had a problem since that first day that he brought booze into our
home. My wife doesn't see it as a problem. It's not that I'm tempted
by it, because I would never drink again. It's just that it grieves my
spirit to see that he'll probably end up like I was.

Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Pastor Winter JNAHC
2004-04-18 18:55:45 UTC
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I gave my life to Christ in `88 when I quit drinking.
Are you a real Acts 2:38 Christian? If not that would be
a good place to start.

Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.onenesschristian.org for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
unix-freak
2004-04-19 01:35:40 UTC
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Post by Pastor Winter JNAHC
Are you a real Acts 2:38 Christian? If not that would be
a good place to start.
Obsolutely I am. I have also raised my family of 5 in a Christian
environment for the last 15 years.
Pastor Winter JNAHC
2004-04-19 05:51:46 UTC
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Post by Pastor Winter JNAHC
Are you a real Acts 2:38 Christian? If not that would be
a good place to start.
Obsolutely I am. I have also raised my family of 5 in a Christian
environment for the last 15 years.
I just wondered because you posted this to a vile false-christian
newsgroup and called them your brothers.

What Church do you attend?

Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.onenesschristian.org for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Pastor Winter JNAHC
2004-04-19 18:33:05 UTC
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Post by unix-freak
Post by Pastor Winter JNAHC
Are you a real Acts 2:38 Christian? If not that would be
a good place to start.
Obsolutely I am. I have also raised my family of 5 in a Christian
environment for the last 15 years.
I just wondered because you posted this to a vile false-christian
newsgroup and called them your brothers.
What Church do you attend?
Pastor Winter
Without getting too specific since this is a "vile" NG.
I attend a Church of God church in Georgia.
I thought you said that you had obeyed Acts 2:38? The
"Church of God" (so called) is a false-christian cult.
That is a major problem right there.
So what are your views on the 21 year old with alcohol
down in his room?
My greater concern is for any father who would allow that
in his house.

You need to get away from the false-christian cult that
has you ensnared and find a real Acts 2:38 Church and
obey Acts 2:38 for real and get power with God and get
your house in order.

I have prayed for your salvation and that of your house.

Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.onenesschristian.org for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
unix-freak
2004-04-20 15:37:59 UTC
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Post by unix-freak
Post by Pastor Winter JNAHC
Are you a real Acts 2:38 Christian? If not that would be
a good place to start.
Obsolutely I am. I have also raised my family of 5 in a Christian
environment for the last 15 years.
I just wondered because you posted this to a vile false-christian
newsgroup and called them your brothers.
What Church do you attend?
Pastor Winter
Without getting too specific since this is a "vile" NG.
I attend a Church of God church in Georgia.
I thought you said that you had obeyed Acts 2:38? The
"Church of God" (so called) is a false-christian cult.
That is a major problem right there.
Acts 2:38 is only one of thousands of scriptures in the word. I am a
Genesis through Revelations Christian.
Post by Pastor Winter JNAHC
So what are your views on the 21 year old with alcohol
down in his room?
My greater concern is for any father who would allow that
in his house.
Nevermind. You're obviously no help to me.
Post by Pastor Winter JNAHC
You need to get away from the false-christian cult that
has you ensnared and find a real Acts 2:38 Church and
obey Acts 2:38 for real and get power with God and get
your house in order.
I have prayed for your salvation and that of your house.
Pastor Winter
Pastor Winter JNAHC
2004-04-21 03:18:42 UTC
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Acts 2:38 is only one of thousands of scriptures in the word.
I am a Genesis through Revelations Christian.
I'm sorry, but it appears that you are quite deceived.

If you don't obey Acts 2:38 and become a real Christian
it will not matter one bit what you do with all the other
scriptures.

Ever wonder why deceivers, and fake christians in general, single
out Acts 2:38 as the verse that "need not be obeyed"? It is
because Acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation for the new testament
church. Notice that Jesus had personally given Peter the keys to
the kingdom of heaven:

Matt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed
in heaven.

Let us also notice that when sinners were "pricked in their
hearts" and asked Peter what they could do, that Peter unlocked
the kingdom of heaven for "as many as the Lord our God shall
call"

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both
Lord and Christ.
Acts 2:37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their
heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men
[and] brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.

Notice, there were 3000 there that elected to have their sins
remitted. So you better believe that the minister of Satan will
do just about anything that he can to try to downplay Acts 2:38.
Paul mentions that there will be those that come along and preach
"another gospel."

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.

Paul also didn't leave us in ignorance that when Satan's
ministers come, they come masquerading as "ministers of
righteousness", as smooth talking false preachers saying "Just
claim belief and you are saved."

II Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful
workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
II Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is
transformed into an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his
ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.

It is the job of the false preacher to cause YOU to be among
those that don't obey Acts 2:38.

II Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels,
II Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them
that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus
Christ:

Notice that there are TWO groups mentioned in verse 8, those that
don't know God, AND those that know him BUT REFUSE TO OBEY HIM.

II Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting
destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of
his power;

James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.

Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of
eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Water Baptism in Jesus name remits sins BECAUSE of Jesus finished
work on the cross. It is the re-birth of water (see John 3:5).

Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into
Christ have put on Christ.

The devil's servants don't want you to "put on Christ". They
want you to reject Jesus name baptism. Is the man in the pulpit
of your church just there to soothe you into hell? Is your
preacher stressing the URGENCY of obeying the Bible or is
he/she/it selling a fable of a false grace that ignores obedience
to the Bible.

II Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.
II Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
II Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the
truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Is your preacher preaching Acts 2:38, or soothing fables?

Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.onenesschristian.org for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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